APRSDroid on Kindle Fire?

[Earl Needham]

Has anyone here been able to install APRSDroid to a Kindle Fire? I keep
getting "application not installed". I DO have Google Maps installed.

Thanks,
Earl
KD5XB

[Charles Blackburn]

I’m guessing the kindle doesn’t have a GPS so that’s probablyl not gunna work anyway
charlie

[Earl Needham]

I was kinda hoping to get at least some position info from WIFI, or else be
able to manually input my position.

I've got APRSDroid installed (finally), but there doesn't seem to be any
way to input my position.

Earl

I’m guessing the kindle doesn’t have a GPS so that’s probablyl not
gunna work anyway [image: Smile]
charlie
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[Eric Lorenz K9LGE]

Earl,

I don't think it will function...as it by default looks for the GPS...I ha
r not seen any way to manually input position.

Eric K9LGE

Post by Earl Needham
I was kinda hoping to get at least some position info from WIFI, or else
be able to manually input my position.
I've got APRSDroid installed (finally), but there doesn't seem to be any
way to input my position.
Earl

I’m guessing the kindle doesn’t have a GPS so that’s probablyl not
gunna work anyway [image: Smile]
charlie
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[Rob]

Post by Earl Needham
I was kinda hoping to get at least some position info from WIFI, or
else be able to manually input my position.
I've got APRSDroid installed (finally), but there doesn't seem to be
any way to input my position.

You can run APRSDroid without a GPS.

For a manual position,
Go into preferences, select 'Location Source' and choose 'Manual Position.'
Go into preferences, select 'Location Settings' and enter the lat and
lon as signed decimal degrees.

For network assisted,
Go into preferences, select 'Location Source' and choose 'Periodic
GPS/Network Position.'
Go into preferences, select 'Location Settings' and turn on 'Use network
location'

I've never used the network assisted but I use manual quite a bit when I
want to give an obscured position better than position ambiguity gives.

[Earl Needham]

What version of APRSDroid? I don't see an option for manual position

Thanks,
Earl

Sent from my Kindle Fire



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From: Rob <VK6UFO-tobu8poG+***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Sat Apr 07 20:23:12 MDT 2012
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Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRSDroid on Kindle Fire?

Post by Earl Needham
I was kinda hoping to get at least some position info from WIFI, or
else be able to manually input my position.
I've got APRSDroid installed (finally), but there doesn't seem to be
any way to input my position.

You can run APRSDroid without a GPS.

For a manual position,
Go into preferences, select 'Location Source' and choose 'Manual Position.'
Go into preferences, select 'Location Settings' and enter the lat and
lon as signed decimal degrees.

For network assisted,
Go into preferences, select 'Location Source' and choose 'Periodic
GPS/Network Position.'
Go into preferences, select 'Location Settings' and turn on 'Use network
location'

I've never used the network assisted but I use manual quite a bit when I
want to give an obscured position better than position ambiguity gives.

[Randal DePriest]

I'm using APRSdroid 1.1.3.

Menu-> more-> preferences-> location source

If you choose manual position, then go to location settings to enter
lat/lon, etc.

Randal
N4AC

Post by Earl Needham
What version of APRSDroid? I don't see an option for manual position
Thanks,
Earl
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Post by Earl Needham
I was kinda hoping to get at least some position info from WIFI, or
else be able to manually input my position.
I've got APRSDroid installed (finally), but there doesn't seem to be
any way to input my position.

You can run APRSDroid without a GPS.
For a manual position,
Go into preferences, select 'Location Source' and choose 'Manual Position.'
Go into preferences, select 'Location Settings' and enter the lat and
lon as signed decimal degrees.
For network assisted,
Go into preferences, select 'Location Source' and choose 'Periodic
GPS/Network Position.'
Go into preferences, select 'Location Settings' and turn on 'Use network
location'
I've never used the network assisted but I use manual quite a bit when I
wa!
nt to
give an obscured position better than position ambiguity gives.
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[Rob]

Post by Earl Needham
What version of APRSDroid? I don't see an option for manual position

APRSDroid 1.2.0 2012-02-26 according to the about box

[Earl Needham]

Probably part of my problem. I have version 0.6 here, and when I try to install the latest version, I get am error stating "application not installed".

Earl

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From: Rob <VK6UFO-tobu8poG+***@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRSDroid on Kindle Fire?

What version of APRSDroid? I don't see an option for manual position

APRSDroid 1.2.0 2012-02-26 according to the about box

[Rob]

Post by Earl Needham
Probably part of my problem. I have version 0.6 here, and when I try
to install the latest version, I get am error stating "application not
installed".

There might be a conflict with such a large jump in version. It might be
worth uninstalling the old version first before installing the latest.
It could also be the Android version. Do you know what version is on
your Kindle? I have Honeycomb 3.2

The download site has all stable versions back to 0.4. You might find
something between 0.6 and current that will work and have the needed
features.

[Georg Lukas]

Hi Earl,

Post by Earl Needham
Probably part of my problem. I have version 0.6 here, and when I try
to install the latest version, I get am error stating "application not
installed".

sorry to tune in so late, I'm on a holiday trip and can check my email
only occasionally.

Versions <1.0 are not compatible with the more recent ones and need to
be uninstalled beforehand. (This is due to a certificate change I had to
perform to be accepted by Google Market.)

Also, the Kindle seems to have trouble with the Google Maps library, see
https://github.com/ge0rg/aprsdroid/issues/34 for the APRSdroid bug
report.

I have created a hopefully fixed OSM-based version that should install
on the Fire even without Google Maps:

http://aprsdroid.org/download/builds/APRSdroid-gl-2012-04-08_osm.apk

Please see http://aprsdroid.org/osm/ for its usage instructions.

Feel free to contact me here or off-list if you have any other issues
with APRSdroid!


73 de Georg, DO1GL

[Earl Needham]

THAT works! I removed 0.6 and installed the OSM version, and it works just
fine -- except I can't figure out how to enter either -103 or 103W or W103
in the manual position -- my Kindle Fire has left me and is now just
outside of LANZHOU, CHINA! LOL!

I'll get there,
Earl
KD5XB-11

Post by Georg Lukas
Hi Earl,

Post by Earl Needham
Probably part of my problem. I have version 0.6 here, and when I try
to install the latest version, I get am error stating "application not
installed".

sorry to tune in so late, I'm on a holiday trip and can check my email
only occasionally.
Versions <1.0 are not compatible with the more recent ones and need to
be uninstalled beforehand. (This is due to a certificate change I had to
perform to be accepted by Google Market.)
Also, the Kindle seems to have trouble with the Google Maps library, see
https://github.com/ge0rg/aprsdroid/issues/34 for the APRSdroid bug
report.
I have created a hopefully fixed OSM-based version that should install
http://aprsdroid.org/download/builds/APRSdroid-gl-2012-04-08_osm.apk
Please see http://aprsdroid.org/osm/ for its usage instructions.
Feel free to contact me here or off-list if you have any other issues
with APRSdroid!
73 de Georg, DO1GL
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[Rob]

Post by Earl Needham
THAT works! I removed 0.6 and installed the OSM version, and it works
just fine -- except I can't figure out how to enter either -103 or
103W or W103 in the manual position -- my Kindle Fire has left me and
is now just outside of LANZHOU, CHINA! LOL!

The lat and long are in signed degrees. There are a few online tools to
retrieve your location in various formats. This is one of them
http://f6fvy.free.fr/qthLocator/fullScreen.php

Click on your location and the popup will give you lat and long in
signed degrees as well as a couple of other formats.

Eg Boston returns:
-----
Long : -71.05614 W (-71° 3' 22'' W)
Lat : 42.36311 N (42° 21' 47'' N)
QTH locator : FN42LI
----
You would use Lon "-71.05614" and Lat "42.36311" for that location.

Give that a try when your Kindle returns from holidays

[Earl Needham]

Thanks for that, Rob. Initially, I was confused over long & lat, putting
them in the wrong blanks.

However, I still can't get APRSDroid to take a - sign. Here's my position,
but that "-103" just won't go.

Tnx es 7 3
Earl

-103.22626 W (-103° 13' 35'' W)
Lat : 34.43071 N (34° 25' 51'' N)
QTH locator : DM84JK

Post by Earl Needham
THAT works! I removed 0.6 and installed the OSM version, and it works
just fine -- except I can't figure out how to enter either -103 or 103W or
W103 in the manual position -- my Kindle Fire has left me and is now just
outside of LANZHOU, CHINA! LOL!
The lat and long are in signed degrees. There are a few online tools to
retrieve your location in various formats. This is one of them
http://f6fvy.free.fr/qthLocator/fullScreen.php
Click on your location and the popup will give you lat and long in signed
degrees as well as a couple of other formats.
-----
Long : -71.05614 W (-71° 3' 22'' W)
Lat : 42.36311 N (42° 21' 47'' N)
QTH locator : FN42LI
----
You would use Lon "-71.05614" and Lat "42.36311" for that location.
Give that a try when your Kindle returns from holidays
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[Rob]

Post by Earl Needham
Thanks for that, Rob. Initially, I was confused over long & lat,
putting them in the wrong blanks.
However, I still can't get APRSDroid to take a - sign. Here's my
position, but that "-103" just won't go.

The only thing I can think of is that you already have a value in there
and the cursor is at the beginning of the edit field
Try moving the cursor to the right end of the edit field, delete back
over anything that's there and try again. I notice you can't enter a
minus if there is already one there.

[Earl Needham]

Still not doing it, the - sign won't work in that field. I tried deleting
everything in there, even tried it twice, but no - sign. I also notice the
period doesn't work in that field, either.

Tnx
Earl
KD5XB

Post by Rob

Post by Earl Needham
Thanks for that, Rob. Initially, I was confused over long & lat, putting
them in the wrong blanks.
However, I still can't get APRSDroid to take a - sign. Here's my
position, but that "-103" just won't go.

The only thing I can think of is that you already have a value in there
and the cursor is at the beginning of the edit field
Try moving the cursor to the right end of the edit field, delete back over
anything that's there and try again. I notice you can't enter a minus if
there is already one there.
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Post by Earl Needham
Still not doing it, the - sign won't work in that field. I tried
deleting everything in there, even tried it twice, but no - sign. I
also notice the period doesn't work in that field, either.

That's odd. I can enter exactly one minus, only as the first character.
I can enter exactly one decimal point anywhere. I wonder if you can
enter the value into something else (eg a text editor) then copy and paste?

It might be worth reporting to Georg as a bug.

[Lloyd Mitchell]

I don't own a iPad but have you considered APRS.FI ? Its configurable
for stations and display preferences.

KO4Lloyd


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Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRSDroid on Kindle Fire?
From: Earl Needham <***@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 07, 2012 6:40 pm
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <***@tapr.org>

I was kinda hoping to get at least some position info from WIFI, or else
be able to manually input my position.

I've got APRSDroid installed (finally), but there doesn't seem to be any
way to input my position.

Earl


On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Charles Blackburn <***@cfl.rr.com>
wrote:
I’m guessing the kindle doesn’t have a GPS so that’s probablyl
not gunna work anyway


charlie





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